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 Post subject: Help and Advice
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:27 pm 
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New member here looking for advice.


On Thursday I left for work after having allowed Deniro and Dexter, my five month old ratties, free range time in my bedroom. Deniro was bouncing around jumping on my lap and shoulder, playing with my shoes -basically his usual self.

10 hours later, I get home from work and Deniro, my blue dumbo is not in a good place. He doesn't come running to the door, is uninterested in food. He is slow. I rush him to the PDSA ER and the vet there says there is nothing wrong. Friday eve I take him to my normal specialist vet and she can see the difference in him and his temperature is low, but his heart is fine, no sign of a URI or anything respiratory and not PT as too young. The vet is also at a loss (and she is an awesome rat vet). We agree to hospitalise him. He is given steroid and antibiotic injections and fluids. Next day the nurses send him home, but he is still not active. He is hardly eating. He is losing weight. I'm taking him back to my specialist vet tomorrow eve. I'm thinking it might be an inner ear infection, but there is no head tilt.

Has anyone seen a young active rat change behaviour in the space of 10 hours before? Has anyone had a young rat lose appetite and become lethargic but with no obvious diagnosis?

Desperate for help and advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Help and Advice
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:05 pm 
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Very hard to know, obviously, but it does sound similar to an experience one of my friends had, and her boy was also only a few months old - to quote her...

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We gave him baytril, doxy, steroids, fluids and just kept him in a dark, warm space with a heat pad and whatever food he wanted, lots of stuff that was easily digestible. Fairly high doses of everything.
It took a few days for him to perk up and then several weeks after that to fully recover.


I hope your chap gets over whatever it quite quickly. :luck:

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 Post subject: Re: Help and Advice
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:43 pm 
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Thanks Mary,

Very reassuring. I hope that is what happens in my case as well. I'm just so perplexed as to what happened?!? Did your friend ever find out the cause?


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 Post subject: Re: Help and Advice
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:50 am 
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They concluded it might have been a nasty kidney infection, but nothing conclusive. No other rats got ill at the same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Help and Advice
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:50 am 
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Hi *waves*

I am she with the poorly rat :) It was about a year or so ago now, Elliott just very suddenly became unwell, he was floppy, cold, lethargic and I remember thinking it was unlikely he would last the night. He was 14wks old at the time and had been fine just a few hours previously. I consulted the emergency vet who concluded that the best thing to do would be to cover all bases and give him the meds Mary has already mentioned, put him somewhere enclosed and dark but with a heat source and plenty of blankets and plenty of super tasty, easy to digest foods and bring him in in the morning. We did just that and I remember distinctly that Elliott went mad for the food we offered; he ate like it had been weeks since his last meal! The next morning he was marginally brighter but we went to the vet anyway. On examination there was nothing to be found, other than some mild dehydration, so he was given fluids and was told to continue with all the meds we'd started him on and review in a few days. Over those few days he did pick up quite nicely so the vet concluded we must be doing something right, so we continued and did a full course of two weeks of everything.

Elliott wasn't right for quite a while afterwards though. We found that if we fed him once per day, a few hours before feeding time he would suffer these odd "crashes" where he would seem to be getting sick again; we'd offer him food, he'd be ravenous and then he'd perk up again. The vet couldn't make head nor tail of it so we went to feeding twice daily; to begin with we fed a super tasty fresh meal just for him in the morning, and then he eat dry mix with everyone in the evening. Then, because of significant weight gain, we decided to split the dry ration into two portions and feed one morning, one evening. This went on for around about two months, when we tried going back to once a day feeding. Elliott was fine with this and has been absolutely fine ever since- in fact he's a big muscular boy now!

It was only in the later part of last year, when I was editing an article about acute kidney issues for Rattitude, that I figured out what might have been wrong. The description in the article was frighteningly similar to what we had experienced with Elliott, down to the sudden deterioration, the severity of the illness and the long recovery afterwards.

I don't know if any of this helps but I hope it does. Good luck :luck:

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