Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

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Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

Post by mothernaturesson » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:40 pm

Hi guys! hoping you may have had a similar experience to me :)

Rosie: female rat, about four / five months old roughly / Marten breed

*Housed with two other females one younger one older
*Gets on ok with other rats, all sleep together/ minor scuffles
* lives in a big cage with lots of beds etc cleaned out regularly
* has at least an hour of free roam a night until she starts attacking me
* mixed food health diet (experienced rat owner)


Problem:

during free roam runs around as if on high alert constantly. never stops to be curious sniffs anything ears up high

after about fourty minutes (if im lucky) of free roam, she starts to get aggressive towards me. she will bite any part of me that is exposed.

she was cage aggressive and didn't like being handled originally. i have worked hard to get her hand tamed, able to be picked up, and not cage aggressive anymore.

when i free roam her it is with the cage open so she can return as many times as she likes which she often does (return for a drink)

if i take her to the vet she is good as gold!!! :dumbogirly:

has anyone elses rat ever done this? she is ok for about fourty minutes or so then she turns on me. and im just sat there like i have been the entire time.

if i put her back int he cage with a blanket on she calms down and eats or goes to sleep

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this is her <3


THANK you for reading guys :) :love: :love: :love: :love:

ps i took her to the vet and he said it might be toxoplasma but i dont think it is?

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Re: Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

Post by [cub] » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:48 pm

Honestly it just sounds like she's one of life's more easily agitated rats. If it's really bothering either of you, you could try spaying her, particularly if you have a vet that's experienced with rodent surgery. Spaying has good protective health benefits anyway so it's something some people (including myself) do as a preventative measure regardless. Otherwise I'd just limit her free range time to 20 minutes or so since clearly that's all she wants.
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Post by mothernaturesson » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:45 pm

thanks cub for your reply
i have taken this advice the last two free roams now. i let her out .. burn off some steam then before she gets too antsy, i scoop her up put her back in the cage and put the blanket over it so shes not stressing about her buddies being out. she doesnt seem to be suffering from it and im happier because im not getting bitten ! so thank you

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Post by mothernaturesson » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:17 pm

Just to update this she tested positive for toxoplasma! So she is now on antibiotics I will update if anything changes

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Post by [cub] » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:18 am

mothernaturesson wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:17 pm
Just to update this she tested positive for toxoplasma! So she is now on antibiotics I will update if anything changes
Ooh, that's interesting. Can I ask how she was diagnosed, and what prompted the diagnosis? Also, what antibiotic specifically is she on? Toxoplasma gondii isn't a bacterium; it's a parasitic eukaryote, though it looks like antibiotics can be used in its treatment.
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Post by mothernaturesson » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:50 pm

I took her to the vet to see if they thought she might have something wrong with her like cystic ovaries or something like that. I take her to a specialist exotic vet called ashleigh vets in Manchester.

The vet said her behaviour sounded typical of toxoplasma and it was the first thing they suspect when they hear about this sort of thing. So he did a blood test we sent it to a lab think it was about sixty quid.

The vet suggested a few medications I’m picking them up tomorrow so I’ll let u know which ones they are

keep ur fingers crossed!

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Post by [cub] » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:49 am

Everything crossed here, and please keep us updated on her progress; this is genuinely fascinating. Toxoplasma isn't really ever mentioned as a concern for pet rats (though it must be pretty common among wild rats) so I'm making notes of the symptoms and treatment.
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Post by ScissorCrow » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:13 pm

Yes same here, when I read she had tested positive for Toxoplasma I went to research it hoping to find an article on rat health guide, but didn't find much apart from things saying rats are attracted to cats when infected.

Good luck with the treatment prescribed.

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Post by mothernaturesson » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:24 pm

Hey guys well the drug is called co-trimoxazole
She is having .15 ml twice a day.
She doesn’t like it!
It’s a paed suspension and is flavoured but she wised up quickly.
I know it’s probably confirmation bias but she was acting more normal and ratty today. I didn’t get bitten today. It’s only been two days though.

eight days to go!!

This is her being cheeky x


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Post by [cub] » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:26 pm

Bless her, hopefully she'll continue improving. Co-trimoxazole is ... not popular. :lol: I've tried giving both the paediatric suspension and the tablet to my rats in the past, and both were clearly poison, though not as clearly poison as co-amoxiclav which is apparently just made of snakes. :roll: You may just have to syringe her. To be perfectly fair, I recall being deeply unimpressed by flavoured antibiotic suspensions when I was a child, so I can't really blame the rats for being similarly displeased!
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Re: Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

Post by frodo quin » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:33 pm

I never heard anything about toxo and rats, so I’m curious how things are going. And of course wish she’s feeling better, because being so high-strung isn’t fun.

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Re: Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

Post by mothernaturesson » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:17 pm

hi guys!! sorry for the delayed response ive had tons of uni work to do.

ok so.. when rosie was on the meds she was better. im not sure if that was because of the increased daily handling. but shes progressively gone back to her old behaviour. shes just as bad as she used to be now and theres a lot of scratches on one of my other rats. so im going back to the vet tomorrow.

its very stressful because shes just an animal and i dont want her to be so mad. she just bites me so hard... and its only after like ten minutes she just gets so mad at me. *sigh*

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Re: Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

Post by frodo quin » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:59 pm

Did her behavior change back after she got of the meds or was she still getting them?

Good luck at the vet tomorrow.

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Post by mothernaturesson » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:08 am

HI guys i just wanted to update this

we had the hormonal implant in rosie a week ago

she is CURED

completely different rat, she hangs out with her sisters they groom each other she has stopped attacking me i can pick her up she likes a scratch.

i am relieved

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Re: Doe seems to be on high alert all the time

Post by frodo quin » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:59 pm

I can imagine

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