New rat mummy - need some advice please

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by cyber ratty » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:40 pm

Rats can sometimes get a bit spooked by something, and may take a couple of days to return to normal. But being in the middle of everything is great for them, they won't mind the TV, so moving them sounds a good plan anyway. :luck:

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by Julie020 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:11 pm

Ah thanks Mary 😊 at the moment I'm moving them back and forward from original place to living room in evening as I haven't a safe space for free room in living room yet!

Not sure if this is spooking them but they seem excited! And ok!

I need to create a safe space in living room as it's getting exhausting moving them about!

So you say they ok with tv...all day? That's today's question 🤔 thank you so much!

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by cyber ratty » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:22 am

Yes, some people leave radios on for them too. :D

If the space their cage is in isn't safe for free ranging, then just take them somewhere else to free range, you don't need to move the cage. It can be nice to use a small cage or big carrier for them to access as a home from home though, for a drink and maybe a toilet stop.

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by Julie020 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:44 am

Yes I keep thinking about that but my problem is I can't pick them up yet and they don't always come out together so I have to sit and wait by their cage! So I struggle getting all 3 together and then I worry I can't get them back in their cage.

But I will work on that they are all so different! One just wants food, one wants to escape..jump and climb the cage (which is stressful trying to stop her) the other is very skittish and shy.

I have created a new space for free roam in the living room now..hope it works and they don't escape!

Do you think moving them from the comfort of being able to jump back to the safety of their cage from free roam is not helping things? 🤔

Thanks Mary

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by cyber ratty » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:33 pm

I think free ranging away from their cage is beneficial. I would also say that you must pick them up - the longer you let them get away with not being picked up the more entrenched that attitude will become.

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by Julie020 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:36 pm

OK.. that's very interesting! I have a plan for free roam.

How do I pick them up when they just skitter away as soon as I try? Do I just grab them? I've tried the moving treats onto my hands thing but they only go so far then run back. I did pick up Loretta once
and she squeaked really loudly. She's much bigger than the other two. I'm sure she's not from the same litter!

Thanks again Mary this is so helpful!

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by Julie020 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm

Oh and just to say..the lady I got them from just grabbed them out of their cage while they were sleeping. They seemed fine but do you think it's done something to them?

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Re: New rat mummy - need some advice please

Post by cyber ratty » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:52 am

Sorry I've rather neglected the forum for a week or two...

Most breeders handle very confidently, and as long as they are picked up in a comfortable way, then they will feel secure. One problem pet homes can find is they are too tentative around rats and that can unnerve kittens who are used to just being 'grabbed'. Ignore any squeaking though, you're the one in charge and they will learn to accept that. ;)

It's hard to describe how to pick rats up confidently when you're new to them, but there may be a video on the Isamu Rats youtube channel which could help explain it. Use thumb and fingers round their chests just under the armpits, which will stop them wriggling out. Doing it quickly also reduces the opportunity to move out of the way.

The alternative approach would be to scoop them from underneath (if a doe is in season then touching her back at all might trigger a reaction and make her very hard to pick up, but scooping doesn't do that) - either one handed or two handed (close in from both sides with flat hands and then wrap them round half way). You can then transfer them to your clothes or a carrier.

If that fails, then pop a tube or bag into the cage for them to climb into and then lift that out with them inside it.

If Loretta is so much bigger than the others, it is worth double checking that they are actually female!

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