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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by acapae_wolf » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:27 pm

Wormtail wrote:I posted on here to see peoples opinion if a vet visit is even necessary
The overwhelming opinion is that a vet's visit is necessary. Take her in first thing tomorrow. Necrotic tissue isn't minor and nor is carrying out operations yourself.

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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by nmt100 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:29 pm

Has she had pain relief? I know you don't think she is in pain but its probably better to give her some if you have some available in case she is in discomfort.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Tori30 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:29 pm

But it really isn't minor - their tail is an extension of their spine. You wouldn't consider surgery on your spine minor, would you? And you wouldnt let someone do at it home I'm sure. Anaesthetic would not be 'unneccessary' for something like this - it would be absolutely, unequivicolly essential.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Amzy » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:30 pm

You will need ABs and pain relief also, which only a vet can prescribe.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Maltey » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:35 pm

SadakoStacey wrote: I do keep thinking that this is some kind of a wind up to antagonise people though.
Agree. There's never a 'normal' post.

Rats are prey animals so they hide pain and illness to show they are not weak and won't get preyed on. Just because you as a human think she's not in pain compared to your human standards doesn't mean she isn't.
Forgetting the pain, how do you propose you're going to keep a rat still when you're chopping its tail off? Suppose you miss and take off the healthy part of her tail where it most definitely will hurt. Never mind the pain, she will be extremely stressed. Under anaesthetic she won't feel any of that.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Wormtail » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:39 pm

Helzie wrote:I can only add my concern to the others' - absolutely do NOT attempt amateur surgery on your pet. You will cause pain and distress and make the situation far worse. She really needs to see a qualified vet.
Chopping the tip of the tail off is hardly 'surgery'... :lol:
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Amzy » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:40 pm

Wormtail wrote:
Helzie wrote:I can only add my concern to the others' - absolutely do NOT attempt amateur surgery on your pet. You will cause pain and distress and make the situation far worse. She really needs to see a qualified vet.
Chopping the tip of the tail off is hardly 'surgery'... :lol:
Are you a vet? Would you chop off your own finger?
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Helzie » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:40 pm

amputation is most definitely surgery!
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by acapae_wolf » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:41 pm

Can you answer any of the other questions asked such as how it happened and if you have any pain meds at home?
Wormtail wrote:
Helzie wrote:I can only add my concern to the others' - absolutely do NOT attempt amateur surgery on your pet. You will cause pain and distress and make the situation far worse. She really needs to see a qualified vet.
Chopping the tip of the tail off is hardly 'surgery'... :lol:
Amputation is if you do it properly ;)
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by cyber ratty » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:41 pm

acapae_wolf wrote:
Wormtail wrote:I posted on here to see peoples opinion if a vet visit is even necessary
The overwhelming opinion is that a vet's visit is necessary. Take her in first thing tomorrow. Necrotic tissue isn't minor and nor is carrying out operations yourself.
Tori30 wrote:But it really isn't minor - their tail is an extension of their spine. You wouldn't consider surgery on your spine minor, would you? And you wouldnt let someone do at it home I'm sure. Anaesthetic would not be 'unneccessary' for something like this - it would be absolutely, unequivicolly essential.
Absolutely. Hopefully Wormtail will take this advice on board, but there's little point in continuing to repeat it, and accusations of trolling isn't helpful either.


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Wormtail wrote:
Helzie wrote:I can only add my concern to the others' - absolutely do NOT attempt amateur surgery on your pet. You will cause pain and distress and make the situation far worse. She really needs to see a qualified vet.
Chopping the tip of the tail off is hardly 'surgery'... :lol:
Yes it is, it's the removal of a body part. Please accept the advice of this community.

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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by flash-gordonette » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:42 pm

sur·ger·y (sûrj-r)
n. pl. sur·ger·ies
1. The branch of medicine that deals with the diagnosis and treatment of injury, deformity, and disease by manual and instrumental means.
2. A surgical operation or procedure, especially one involving the removal or replacement of a diseased organ or tissue.
3. An operating room or a laboratory of a surgeon or of a hospital's surgical staff.
4. The skill or work of a surgeon.
5. Chiefly British
a. A physician's, dentist's, or veterinarian's office.
b. The period during which a physician, dentist, or veterinarian consults with or treats patients in the office.
(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/surgery)
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Tori30 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:45 pm

As has been said by others, it is surgery.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by SueN » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:46 pm

I actually feel quite sick reading this :( Have you considered that you may be liable to prosecution if you knowingly cause pain and distress to any animal.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Helzie » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:46 pm

acapae_wolf wrote:Can you answer any of the other questions asked such as how it happened and if you have any pain meds at home?
Agreed- can you tell us how it happened and if you have any pain meds you can give her? She will be in pain. She also needs antibiotics.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Helzie » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:47 pm

I have a further suggestion- why don't you ring an emergency vet and ask them what they recommend? There's no charge for calling them.
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