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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Amzy » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:35 pm

It isn't minor.

Do you have pain relief?

What caused the injury?
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Helzie » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:36 pm

Amputating part of her tail without expert vet care, pain relief and antibiotics WILL cause her pain, and probably make her ill. It really isn't minor. Feelings on this thread are running high because we are concerned that your rat needs expert care and the overwhelming view on this is not being accepted. Vet costs really shouldn't factor into the decision.
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Nicky » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:37 pm

No, you should not do this yourself.
Yes, your rat needs to see a vet.
The "vehement replies" are people astonished that you would even for a second consider something like this yourself without a sterile environment, the right tools and medications, including anaesthesia (which would probably not need to be very much, just enough to carry out the procedure) and pain relief.

I know what it's like to have unexpected vet costs, but I'm afraid that's part of loving and living with pets.

If you try to do this yourself it could go badly wrong and you could end up paying a lot more
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Re: Tail gone bad

Post by Fancy Rats Moderation » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:39 pm

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Everything went fine

Post by Wormtail » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:47 pm

Note: thread merged with the other locked one on this topic to keep all relevant information together.

I'll probably be called irresponsible and all sorts of names by a few PC, O.T.T. liberal, drama queens. But I decided to go ahead and remove the dead skin myself:

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I used scissors which i heated the steal first to make sure it was sterilized, I stopped just before the bone.

She felt no pain as the skin was definitely DEAD. I know my rat and she would of made a loud *Squeak* if their was any nerve endings left alive.

It looks much better now, there was no blood so no chance of infection but i will keep the area clean.
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Re: Everything went fine

Post by Tori30 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:50 pm

I hate that Im replying to this as you are clearly wanting some attention. No you clearly dont care about your animals, and if i knew who you were I would report you for cruelty.
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Re: Everything went fine

Post by KateR » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:54 pm

Thankfully someone does know who this irresponsible piece of attention-seeking garbage is so hopefully he will be reported.
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Re: Everything went fine

Post by Wormtail » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:54 pm

Tori30 wrote:I hate that Im replying to this as you are clearly wanting some attention. No you clearly dont care about your animals, and if i knew who you were I would report you for cruelty.
I'll tell you where i live if you want as I have not caused cruelty to animals. I care alot about my rats thank you very much.

I will probably take her to a vet in a few weeks though to see if they think anything else need's to be done.
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Re: Everything went fine

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Re: Everything went fine

Post by neotoma » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:12 am

I'm briefly unlocking this to reply on the medical stuff for the good of the rat. I will then relock it until Admin has had time to assess the thread.

1) The dead area in the top photo should have bone in it. If it really is floppy and just feels like skin, then the bone must have started to rot. This is a sign that the situation is very serious - it means there is necrosis of the spine as well as the skin.

2) In the second photo there is clearly still dead tissue at the tip of the tail - logical enough as you have cut within the dead tissue. If this is not properly treated with surgical amputation and antibiotics, the necrosis is likely to spread up the tail and enter her bloodstream and spine. If this happens she will die, and at that stage it will not be possible to save her. The reason vets amputate taking a margin of healthy tissue is that if any dead tissue is left, there is a high risk of infection and spreading necrosis. The risk of infection has absolutely nothing to do with whether there was any blood on your wound. It is vital that you take her to a vet asap and have her tail properly assessed and cleaned up, otherwise you are putting her life at risk.

3) Obviously, partial tail amputation of healthy tissue must be done only by a qualified vet, under anaesthetic, and with appropriate post-op pain relief and antibiotics.

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