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Foraging toys

Post by oowie » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:02 pm

I have a couple different foraging toys and my rats like and know how to use them. At the moment i do not scatter feed, because i try to get them more potty trained, so for now they only have a soft blanked on them cagebottom and a toilet with substrate, so no room for scatterfeeding atm.

Do you think feeding from foraging toys is a good substitute for scatter feeding?

I have one rat that puts on weight very easy, and he is lazy, so i think he will eat less when he has to work for it.

Also, how much RR mix to feed? Is about 2 tablespoons per rat daily ok?
And should i put everyting in the toys, or maybe provide a liitle bit in a bowl in the eveningand let them work for the rest?

The get fresh veggies in the morning.
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Re: Foraging toys

Post by cyber ratty » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:51 am

Foraging toys will be much better than a bowl, so yes, ditch the bowl and share the food out between as many toys as possible.

The average amount of RR mix each rat should have daily is around 15g. Some need a bit more, some need less.

How long do you expect to toilet train in that way? If they haven't 'got it' in a couple of weeks then I'd recommend reverting to loose substrate as it's more important to them for enrichment reasons than toileting. Do you have a second toilet in the cage up high next to their favourite bed? That's the one I find they use most.

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Re: Foraging toys

Post by oowie » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:35 pm

Yes i have multiple toilets, also up high in the cage.
But when i use bedding on the whole cagefloor, even when it is other than the toilet substrate, they poo everywhere, and not only in their toilets.
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Re: Foraging toys

Post by cyber ratty » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:02 am

I would still say that providing loose substrate is more important than having that substrate poo free. ;)

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Re: Foraging toys

Post by oowie » Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:45 am

Yes i know, this is just to remind them there is a toilet, and it works wonders!
Maybe i should try another bedding. I use B2N in the toilets, and used geen mile on the cagebottom before.
Now with fleece on the cagefloor, they use the toilets 100%.

What bedding can i try next? Maybe something like carefresh? Or cotton and comfort/ no smell bedding?

I don't like hemp because it is sharp and it flies around the room when they jump.
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Re: Foraging toys

Post by oowie » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:47 pm

well maybe.... i could use back2nature on the whole cagefloor? is it possible to let them scatterfeed in B2N?
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Re: Foraging toys

Post by cyber ratty » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:10 pm

B2N isn't suitable for the main floor either - they can't dig in it. ;) Carefresh is perfumed so can make some rats sneeze. Have you got access to kiln dried/heat treated dust extracted shavings?

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Re: Foraging toys

Post by oowie » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:00 am

I can get this one, but not sure it is safe for rats:
https://plospan.com/product/kingsize-woodshavings/
or this:
http://www.allspan.de/en/cats-and-other-pets/
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Re: Foraging toys

Post by oowie » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:25 am

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Re: Foraging toys

Post by cyber ratty » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:20 pm

oowie wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:00 am
I can get this one, but not sure it is safe for rats:
https://plospan.com/product/kingsize-woodshavings/
This doesn't say it's been heat treated/kiln dried, but would be worth asking to see if it has.
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:25 am
or this:
http://www.allspan.de/en/cats-and-other-pets/
This is definitely not suitable, this sort of wood pellet disintegrates to sawdust.
oowie wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:25 am
would this be suitable?
https://www.drdknaagdierwinkel.nl/en/ti ... dding.html
This looks like it could be very dusty.

So it's a no to all of them apart from the first one which is a maybe.

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